Michael Rupp
A nagging thought I have about a trivial but very important matter
#Conversations and the #Attractiveness of the person you want to converse with have an awkward social legacy.

Regardless of what is about to follow, I am not saying that #Men have it easy while I'm simultaneously explicitly explaining why I think #Women have it difficult. This is a very #nuanced topic and I want to concentrate on what I see as #problems women have in #society that seem to definitely restrict their free will as no fault of their own.

Theirs a person I know #IRL and she has a very #attractive look about her, a #voluptuous body, #happy playful demeanor, big hair, a #pretty face, and still very #youthful. If it's not obvious, I'm an older dude way past my prime and not anything special to be around. I think the #sex roles could be reversed and most of this would still make sense with different intensities and risks/rewards. I personally know her in a very casual sense because of being in the same social circles. One of them is an annual #Halloween party open to the public. She would often show up in a common #Police #Costume or equivalent. At first glance, one might scoff at the use of #seductive looks to gain attention. Then I saw the kind of attention she got and it wasn't what she wanted or what she needed. Sure she looked good, but I couldn't help think #society kind of took away her #freedom of #choice. Her situation was as a young #SingleMother #struggling to provide for her #kids. The "loose-ends" of society rushed to her at the event trying to have what they saw, like they were looking at a commodity they could buy instead of a person desperately doing what they had to, to try for a better life. The most recent year changed how I saw her. She didn't change costumes, but she did bring her #retarded and partially #disabled uncle to the #party. The inner beauty that a person has to do that type of thing is wonderful! For the first time, she got a #smile from me instead of a #PokerFace. Her smile back seemed to #telepathically say back, "Thanks for seeing me."

She and I have never actually spoken to each other. I see her in other places and we have the occasional glance at each other that conveys, I know you are a good person. I'm pretty sure I can't talk to her because the #society around us would see a #pretty young person and a #married old guy talking and think shitty thoughts. That's something society is doing very wrong. I understand why though. Theirs a lot of people with #clandestine intentions driven by their innate desire to #procreate, and normally people are in #DumbMode when that switch is turned on. It makes me sad though that wholesome conversation can't be had between people because of what assuming people will think and later say in private to others for their own erroneous #SelfRighteous #excitement.

The same predicament holds if she was not what most of society deems as #attractive. I believe any combination could have an awful assumption put onto the scenario. Ugly girls put out and that's why he's talking to her. A young guy? He must be a child molester. An old person? He's probably trying to rob them. Poor people? He's buying drugs. Rich people? Sell out! Power to the people! Co-worker? #Sexual #harassment. (I know that's wrong because it's supposed to have a power dynamic first.) Manager to a subordinate? Definitely #Sexual#arassment.

It's been quite a number of decades that the nightly news has reinforced that the #appearance of #impropriety is enough to #convict in the court of #public #opinion. This also forces-out the ability to deliver #compassion and #understanding to a #stranger. One time I heard a guy talking about the way the #CIA or some #Law #Enforcement organization will #invade #privacy enough to get a #conviction, but if they invaded it even more, the #understanding that would come out would #exonerate them. #Voyeuristic people that see something now and report their #erroneous #assumptions to their friends later are not invading privacy enough. Partly the way our society works they have little #free #will either in their subsequent actions. They are dealing with decisions under risk. Revealing that they suspect something would cause a #fictitious #alibi to be formed if they were right, so they can't invade the privacy further. The 'better safe than sorry' rule forces them to #report the potential #transgression. Because that move would be assumed by anybody with more wisdom than a person in a sheltered existence, it takes away the #FreeWill of the person who might have acted in a way that showed an appearance of impropriety. Therein we have a classic "Mexican-Standoff". (I'm not sure why it's Mexican.) That's something society is doing very wrong.

I want to go back to the microcosm of good old whats-her-name, the attractive girl at the start of this long #MicroBlog. This failure of life outlined by game theory affects her more than me. She can't just start a conversation with any guy at random, because it's highly likely they will either think they are so #amazing that this #HotChick is coming to them, or they are so #damaged #emotionally from their past experiences that they assume something really bad is going to happen soon because their's no way an attractive person wants to have a #normal #conversation with them. Sure that's a false dichotomy, but I was talking about the most likely possibilities instead of the only #possibilities. Chances are close to zero that she can just have a person-to-person #wholesome #conversation with somebody at random and they don't think something untrue about why it's happening. That sounds fucking lonely. I'm guessing society, in general, thinks the attractive's have an easy life (because less than 1% of then are the only people that get to be in the media or a performer on stage or screen...). Sure maybe some things in life are easier. Like maybe it's easier to get free drinks at a bar, but isn't that like it being easier for a fish to get a free worm on a hook? Those drinks aren't charity, they are a hedge to bet they will obtain something they want in the future. That's something society is doing very wrong.

Too many people (men & women) in my #opinion think women have it easy. I didn't just say men have it easy! What I did imply was that it's #complicated and trouble is #trouble even if it's in a different form. Both #men & #women have their own unique #injustices they have to #suffer through. I'm #focusing on #women's #problems right now so #MRA #dudes and #dudettes can back the hell off; I've tasted your #RedPill so don't try making an #enemy of me here. Here's a recent #Podcast I heard which laid out the case for how women were #objectively #discriminated against since we were able to transmit sound electronically.

We built #electronics that #worked #wrong to the #benefit of men's #voices and acted like their's nothing we could have done about it. That's something society is doing very wrong.

If you haven't read the Tina Fey book titled Bossypants, you are missing out. Although I didn't read it, I listened to it for free using my Libby app connected to my public library. Tina reads it and unlike a lot of people who #voice their own #books, her inflection, timing, emphasis and so on is impeccable. Their's so much laugh-out-loud content that I don't know who wouldn't like it. I'm going to quote a few excerpts from it that are pertinent to this #MacroBlog entry.

#### Body Image

“But I think the first real change in women’s body image came when JLo turned it butt-style. That was the first time that having a large-scale situation in the back was part of mainstream American beauty. Girls wanted butts now. Men were free to admit that they had always enjoyed them. And then, what felt like moments later, boom—Beyoncé brought the leg meat. A back porch and thick muscular legs were now widely admired. And from that day forward, women embraced their diversity and realized that all shapes and sizes are beautiful. Ah ha ha. No. I’m totally messing with you. All Beyonce and JLo have done is add to the laundry list of attributes women must have to qualify as beautiful. Now every girl is expected to have Caucasian blue eyes, full Spanish lips, a classic button nose, hairless Asian skin with a California tan, a Jamaican dance hall ass, long Swedish legs, small Japanese feet, the abs of a lesbian gym owner, the hips of a nine-year-old boy, the arms of Michelle Obama, and doll tits. The person closest to actually achieving this look is Kim Kardashian, who, as we know, was made by Russian scientists to sabotage our athletes.”
― Tina Fey, Bossypants

#### Women's Defects

This was how I found out that there are an infinite number of things that can be ‘incorrect’ on a woman’s body.
― Tina Fey, Bossypants
After which she starts listing common things that in our society are like water to the fish; eyebrows too thick, eyebrows too thin, eyebrows too round, eyebrows too angular... The list seemed infinite and she barely left the upper part of the head. #WTF!!!

#### It's what you don't have...

Now if you’re not "hot," you are expected to work on it until you are. It’s like when you renovate a house and you’re legally required to leave just one of the original walls standing. If you don’t have a good body, you’d better starve the body you have down to a neutral shape, then bolt on some breast implants, replace your teeth, dye your skin orange, inject your lips, sew on some hair and call yourself the Playmate of the Year.
― Tina Fey, Bossypants

## That's something society is doing very wrong.

I think as a world of humans we need to collectively start taking back our #FreeWill and taking chances, and instead of avoiding things with a potential upside, we go in ready to shut-down the beginnings of a potential downside. Too much of our #Culture is dictated by what #Artists & #Writers produce as their work and they produce that because that's what we are doing in society. That's not #creativity, that's a #feedback #loop! We're going to blow our amplifier! The #creative people in this world need to stop serving up #commercial #garbage and begin writing things that #struggle with finding acts of free-will, and objectively #ethical good acts.
###### ― Fin ―
Tedel
Too much of our #Culture is dictated by what #Artists & #Writers
By advertisers and media, I would say. Moreover, you say it yourself too:
The #creative people in this world need to stop serving up #commercial #garbage and begin writing things that #struggle with finding acts of free-will, and objectively #ethical good acts.

That’s not #creativity, that’s a #feedback #loop!
I concur, but I beg you not to blame artists. Let's point the finger to who are really responsible for this.
Digit
2002 i basically enslaved myself to make a tv advert to break into the profitable industry or something, idk, i hadnt really thought it through. while i worked on it, i watched a bill hicks video over and over again, including the bit about "if there's anybody here who works in advertising or marketing... kill yourselves".
glad for that artist saying that. that was effectively the last time i "worked in advertising or marketing".
spent the past couple decades on audio art with no commercial viability, among other laudable uses of my creative aptitudes. n that feels a LOT better than making a tv advert unwittingly chasing being a slave-cog to commercial structural violence.
This is a lame post. Profile viewing and local directory are broken since I upgraded the MariaDB. Sorry.
Michael Rupp to Atheists in the open via wall-to-wall:
Sam Harris has a point, begging for the counter-points...
I believe that mentioning #SamHarris's name in mixed company can push #emotional #buttons on almost all people who have heard of him, or heard some of him, and even so for some people who have heard most of him. I think I know why that happens, but it's not why I am writing this. I have heard so much from him directly that I earnestly believe he is always ready to be wrong and change based on new evidence. However, he makes really strong cases for what he thinks, so if you disagree with what he is saying while he is saying it, you get the feeling that you are in a philosophical life or death struggle. I don't anymore because I have heard a sufficient amount of his spoken thoughts. I respect him a lot.

In his recent episode of #MakingSense "Can We Pull Back From The Brink?" (which seems to be a hot-take), he dispassionately discusses scale & judgment relative to the latest #uprisings and #police work—in earnest—hoping to find a way to make things better in a rational way. Give it a listen, please, maybe jot down notes so you don't let the good be the enemy of the bad.

What follows below is my reaction to his podcast above.

Regarding his "proximate cause" for the civil & uncivil unrest, I'd like to argue this is more accurate than Sam's claim.
##### #GeorgeFloyd, #Minneapolis #Protests, #AhmaudArbery & #AmyCooper | The Daily Social Distancing Show

Regarding his "if you think a society without cops is a society you would want to live in, you have lost your mind" part, I'm feeling a false dichotomy happening there. I'm no fan of #Anarchists ideals because they like #Libertarians don't present ideas that I can see as #sustainable or ideally doing the most good for the most people, but I agree with them in that what we are doing now isn't convincingly better.

Sam poses a world without cops vs. a world as it is. What about a world with different cops whos publicized mission matches their hidden agendas, and that type of police force is agreeable to the local public in a very democratic and constitutional-rights respecting way with real accountability for their actions?

Sam idealized "giving a #monopoly on #violence to the state" which if things weren't as they really are I could understand, but the reality is from the start we gave a monopoly on violence to a #mindfully chosen type of like-minded individuals who's direction came from only the #wealthy of #society. #Policemen and #prison #guards are far more like the depiction in A Clockwork Orange than they are in Blue Bloods. Sure, #NotAllCops, but it's supposed to be an ideal, a higher standard, and that is definitely not met.

It's also hard to know if my own #bias makes me feel the need to post this because Sam can say something in one in a sentence that makes me think of a rebuttal, and in the next sentence he will vindicate my thoughts, although I didn't hear it because of the distraction caused by the first sentence. Sam oddly uses some extreme examples of things that happened like firings from "woke-culture" for non-incidents to make his points—granted they were on the mass media so they have the power to cause #conventional #wisdom to be produced from thin air—but later in the podcast, he decided to claim the extremes causing the uprising were too #statistically #insignificant to justify the results on the ground. Not cool. Firings of well-to-do people for lousy reasons, bad, the #murder of black people for lousy reasons, not a significant thing statistically.

Sam, relative to #Democrats, reminds me of the dad-type who is harder on his own child than the rest of the world because he cares more about his own kid.

I'm not sure who Sam was listening to in general on the topic linked to #DefundThePolice to form his positions, but I think #TheDailyShow with #TrevorNoah does a far better job covering the concept than Sam did in his #podcast.
##### What Does It Mean to Defund or Abolish the Police?

Around 37 minutes in Sam starts to talk about the progress we have made with #RaceRelations in the #USA, and his points are valid, but I feel like the bright picture he presented was a sentence fragment that begged to be completed. A two-term black #POTUS (which Sam mentions), with the backlash of a #Trump (which he failed to juxtapose), and all that it has wrought since is not what I would consider a net gain in #Race #Relations.

Somebody who recently made this point, and is of better of recent notoriety than I, is Kimberly Jones. She eloquently states my position.
##### How Can We Win?

Sam goes on to justifiably suss out the difference between real and perceived patterns; the plural of anecdotal evidence is not data. A recent episode of Invisibilia agrees with him to some degree about how we can see a pattern where there isn't one because we have become #embattled by #acts of #aggression.
##### Trust Fall

He makes a lot of good points to shore up the mental space a #Cop might be stuck with based on what they experienced or were told by their superiors in the routine precinct meetings, but he didn't—to my liking—shore up the reasons why people economically below the middle-class citizen are also stuck in a mental space determining their actions based on their personal experience and that of their community. Change both their environments and cultures, and you'll change their actions. I'll offer a few places to find reasons to see things through the eyes of others if you haven't been out of your suburban cul-de-sac to find it out for yourself.

Later on, around 1:15:10 time mark, Sam starts to do a thing where he sees a statistical anomaly and without a good-enough theory of why there is an anomaly, he assumes things that I perceive as assumptions that are culturally forced on him based on his likely experiences to date.

His statement of, "we're talking about career criminals", to categorize police shootings as justifiable is a tip-off that the data is trusted on its face, and it bothers me that there is no acknowledgment that the path of a person who was cultured into being a "career criminal" could have started with a bogus arrest for marijuana consumption. People who haven't been flushed by the system think merits can save you. I, a white person from the middle-class, had many run-ins with the police where I undeservedly was let off the hook with a warning, and no records of mine were permanently kept in the system.

##### Sarah on Her Criminal Past | I Love You, America on Hulu

Also, also, people without stuff may crime to survive, where people with means most likely crime to entertain themselves.

He mentions how Officer to Suspect interactions of the same race are more likely to be #violent. Like what if a like-race-category on the PD has more to prove to their coworkers when confronting a like-race-category "suspect". Since the incident of how PD's retaliate on anybody that crosses them in a cult-like way, e.g. the dismissal of LAPD's Chris Dorner the recently uncovered Buffalo PD case of Cariol Horne, it is very plausible that race discrimination or tacit racism pervasive in the PD's causes it the way a sidewalk in disrepair causes a bone injury. Did we even check to see if there's a bias in reporting where non-white officers are more likely to report things #truthfully? #Institutional #racism would come down hard on non-white employees and be forgiving of white employees.
##### 8:46 - Dave Chappelle

He then jumps to a hypothesis that because blacks are more likely to #resist an #arrest because of real or perceived systematic racism problem, "the only response is for the police to increase their use of force". Damn Sam. That's the only choice they have? Like de-escalation techniques never worked? Like the way patrolling went in the months and years before the incident has nothing to do with how things go down? The cop's only choice was that. Sorry Sam, I reject your null hypothesis.

Maybe black on black violence outside police to non-police interactions wouldn't be so high if there wasn't a clear signal from the system that blacks don't matter to the police, and their bullshit arrests or stops & frisks are randomly distributed to make tally sheets on clipboards look right for municipal reporting. If an innocent black person was shaken down without #probable #cause and no tangible #justification, will they later call the cops when a local criminal act by a black person is being committed? If you are a skilled black criminal, will you cut in some of the local police on the action you are running? Any cop that don't give a fuck about black people would give a fuck more about a black person helping his kid get through college with side money. In the #Somebody Podcast linked above the Chicago PD's local precinct office couldn't find Courtney Copeland's killer with the evidence handed to them on a silver platter, I—personally—can only assume the cops are the mob.

Somewhere around 1:30:00 we hit a concept of what kind of people would want to be cops in such a #hostile #work #environment. "Who's gonna want to be a cop now?" Ugh! This smacks of, the only people that care about privacy are people doing something wrong, I ain't got nothing to hide. He further postulates that only prison guard type people will want to be cops. #WTF. Maybe if good people didn't think they were going to be gang-land retaliated against for doing the #morally #altruistic thing, they might take a chance on being a cop. If whistle-blowers didn't know by past examples that it would end all their #future #careers in one fell swoop, there might be more people doing good things for the world. Where's Reality Winner now? Our #dominating #culture propagated by those in power is #cancerous, and to extend the metaphor, many of us still think #smoking is good for their health. I would definitely want to go for it and become a cop if I didn't personally have reasons to see the PD's near me as corrupt from first and credible second-hand experiences.

Near the end, about 1:34:00, he's claiming the videos are warping our perception of the problem. I think in that he is putting the wrong weight on the value of loss and cascading ill-effects one police act of murder of a minority has on our country. We are supposed to be founded on all people are created equal, innocent until proven guilty, and so on.
##### What the Hell Happened This Week? | The Daily Social Distancing Show

Bear in mind, if I didn't mention something Sam said in his #podcast, it's about a 99% chance I agreed with him.

!
Michael Rupp
This adds on nicely to the "rant" above. Mike Pesca, in the first 5 minutes (the only part I care about for this context), outlines how holding for one variable in statistics tells a whole different story than the one Sam was rationally presenting.

##### Give Up That Racist Tradition

Michael Rupp
Sam Harris has a point, begging for the counter-points...

(Special note, this is a repost from https://nsfw.wnymathguy.com/display/27bb4d82-905e-e83a-53a4-24b331982239 because it somehow was only in the group's feed and not my main page.)
I believe that mentioning #SamHarris's name in mixed company can push #emotional #buttons on almost all people who have heard of him, or heard some of him, and even so for some people who have heard most of him. I think I know why that happens, but it's not why I am writing this. I have heard so much from him directly that I earnestly believe he is always ready to be wrong and change based on new evidence. However, he makes really strong cases for what he thinks, so if you disagree with what he is saying while he is saying it, you get the feeling that you are in a philosophical life or death struggle. I don't anymore because I have heard a sufficient amount of his spoken thoughts. I respect him a lot.

In his recent episode of #MakingSense "Can We Pull Back From The Brink?" (which seems to be a hot-take), he dispassionately discusses scale & judgment relative to the latest #uprisings and #police work—in earnest—hoping to find a way to make things better in a rational way. Give it a listen, please, maybe jot down notes so you don't let the good be the enemy of the bad.

What follows below is my reaction to his podcast above.

Regarding his "proximate cause" for the civil & uncivil unrest, I'd like to argue this is more accurate than Sam's claim.
##### #GeorgeFloyd, #Minneapolis #Protests, #AhmaudArbery & #AmyCooper | The Daily Social Distancing Show

Regarding his "if you think a society without cops is a society you would want to live in, you have lost your mind" part, I'm feeling a false dichotomy happening there. I'm no fan of #Anarchists ideals because they like #Libertarians don't present ideas that I can see as #sustainable or ideally doing the most good for the most people, but I agree with them in that what we are doing now isn't convincingly better.

Sam poses a world without cops vs. a world as it is. What about a world with different cops whos publicized mission matches their hidden agendas, and that type of police force is agreeable to the local public in a very democratic and constitutional-rights respecting way with real accountability for their actions?

Sam idealized "giving a #monopoly on #violence to the state" which if things weren't as they really are I could understand, but the reality is from the start we gave a monopoly on violence to a #mindfully chosen type of like-minded individuals who's direction came from only the #wealthy of #society. #Policemen and #prison #guards are far more like the depiction in A Clockwork Orange than they are in Blue Bloods. Sure, #NotAllCops, but it's supposed to be an ideal, a higher standard, and that is definitely not met.

It's also hard to know if my own #bias makes me feel the need to post this because Sam can say something in one in a sentence that makes me think of a rebuttal, and in the next sentence he will vindicate my thoughts, although I didn't hear it because of the distraction caused by the first sentence. Sam oddly uses some extreme examples of things that happened like firings from "woke-culture" for non-incidents to make his points—granted they were on the mass media so they have the power to cause #conventional #wisdom to be produced from thin air—but later in the podcast, he decided to claim the extremes causing the uprising were too #statistically #insignificant to justify the results on the ground. Not cool. Firings of well-to-do people for lousy reasons, bad, the #murder of black people for lousy reasons, not a significant thing statistically.

Sam, relative to #Democrats, reminds me of the dad-type who is harder on his own child than the rest of the world because he cares more about his own kid.

I'm not sure who Sam was listening to in general on the topic linked to #DefundThePolice to form his positions, but I think #TheDailyShow with #TrevorNoah does a far better job covering the concept than Sam did in his #podcast.
##### What Does It Mean to Defund or Abolish the Police?

Around 37 minutes in Sam starts to talk about the progress we have made with #RaceRelations in the #USA, and his points are valid, but I feel like the bright picture he presented was a sentence fragment that begged to be completed. A two-term black #POTUS (which Sam mentions), with the backlash of a #Trump (which he failed to juxtapose), and all that it has wrought since is not what I would consider a net gain in #Race #Relations.

Somebody who recently made this point, and is of better of recent notoriety than I, is Kimberly Jones. She eloquently states my position.
##### How Can We Win?

Sam goes on to justifiably suss out the difference between real and perceived patterns; the plural of anecdotal evidence is not data. A recent episode of Invisibilia agrees with him to some degree about how we can see a pattern where there isn't one because we have become #embattled by #acts of #aggression.
##### Trust Fall

He makes a lot of good points to shore up the mental space a #Cop might be stuck with based on what they experienced or were told by their superiors in the routine precinct meetings, but he didn't—to my liking—shore up the reasons why people economically below the middle-class citizen are also stuck in a mental space determining their actions based on their personal experience and that of their community. Change both their environments and cultures, and you'll change their actions. I'll offer a few places to find reasons to see things through the eyes of others if you haven't been out of your suburban cul-de-sac to find it out for yourself.

Later on, around 1:15:10 time mark, Sam starts to do a thing where he sees a statistical anomaly and without a good-enough theory of why there is an anomaly, he assumes things that I perceive as assumptions that are culturally forced on him based on his likely experiences to date.

His statement of, "we're talking about career criminals", to categorize police shootings as justifiable is a tip-off that the data is trusted on its face, and it bothers me that there is no acknowledgment that the path of a person who was cultured into being a "career criminal" could have started with a bogus arrest for marijuana consumption. People who haven't been flushed by the system think merits can save you. I, a white person from the middle-class, had many run-ins with the police where I undeservedly was let off the hook with a warning, and no records of mine were permanently kept in the system.

##### Sarah on Her Criminal Past | I Love You, America on Hulu

Also, also, people without stuff may crime to survive, where people with means most likely crime to entertain themselves.

He mentions how Officer to Suspect interactions of the same race are more likely to be #violent. Like what if a like-race-category on the PD has more to prove to their coworkers when confronting a like-race-category "suspect". Since the incident of how PD's retaliate on anybody that crosses them in a cult-like way, e.g. the dismissal of LAPD's Chris Dorner the recently uncovered Buffalo PD case of Cariol Horne, it is very plausible that race discrimination or tacit racism pervasive in the PD's causes it the way a sidewalk in disrepair causes a bone injury. Did we even check to see if there's a bias in reporting where non-white officers are more likely to report things #truthfully? #Institutional #racism would come down hard on non-white employees and be forgiving of white employees.
##### 8:46 - Dave Chappelle

He then jumps to a hypothesis that because blacks are more likely to #resist an #arrest because of real or perceived systematic racism problem, "the only response is for the police to increase their use of force". Damn Sam. That's the only choice they have? Like de-escalation techniques never worked? Like the way patrolling went in the months and years before the incident has nothing to do with how things go down? The cop's only choice was that. Sorry Sam, I reject your null hypothesis.

Maybe black on black violence outside police to non-police interactions wouldn't be so high if there wasn't a clear signal from the system that blacks don't matter to the police, and their bullshit arrests or stops & frisks are randomly distributed to make tally sheets on clipboards look right for municipal reporting. If an innocent black person was shaken down without #probable #cause and no tangible #justification, will they later call the cops when a local criminal act by a black person is being committed? If you are a skilled black criminal, will you cut in some of the local police on the action you are running? Any cop that doesn't give a fuck about black people would give a fuck more about a black person helping his kid get through college with side money. In the #Somebody Podcast linked above the Chicago PD's local precinct office couldn't find Courtney Copeland's killer with the evidence handed to them on a silver platter, I—personally—can only assume the cops are the mob.

Somewhere around 1:30:00, we hit a concept of what kind of people would want to be cops in such a #hostile #work #environment. "Who's gonna want to be a cop now?" Ugh! This smacks of, the only people that care about privacy are people doing something wrong, I ain't got nothing to hide. He further postulates that only prison guard type people will want to be cops. #WTF. Maybe if good people didn't think they were going to be gang-land retaliated against for doing the #morally #altruistic thing, they might take a chance on being a cop. If whistle-blowers didn't know by past examples that it would end all their #future #careers in one fell swoop, there might be more people doing good things for the world. Where's Reality Winner now? Our #dominating #culture propagated by those in power is #cancerous, and to extend the metaphor, many of us still think #smoking is good for their health. I would definitely want to go for it and become a cop if I didn't personally have reasons to see the PD's near me as corrupt from first and credible second-hand experiences.

Near the end, about 1:34:00, he's claiming the videos are warping our perception of the problem. I think he is putting the wrong weight on the value of loss and cascading ill-effects one police act of murder of a minority has on our country. We are supposed to be founded on all people are created equal, innocent until proven guilty, and so on.
##### What the Hell Happened This Week? | The Daily Social Distancing Show

Bear in mind, if I didn't mention something Sam said in his #podcast, it's about a 99% chance I agreed with him.

Michael Rupp
This adds on nicely to the "rant" above. Mike Pesca, in the first 5 minutes (the only part I care about for this context), outlines how holding for one variable in statistics tells a whole different story than the one Sam was rationally presenting.

##### Give Up That Racist Tradition

Michael Rupp
Slow Burn: David Duke
This episode was a roller-coaster of #Racism from the #UnitedStates' past. I'm not that young that I shouldn't be expected to know the David Duke history, but I guess I'm not racist enough to know and not marginalized enough to know either. If somebody had tried removing all cheese from America, I probably would have written an essay about it in elementary school.

Hearing the fun romp of the precarious up's and joyful down's of David Duke's early years was a fun time. Not BlacKkKlansman level but heading that way.

##### Slow Burn: David Duke | Season 4: Episode 2 "Robe and Ritual"

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Due to some acts of omission, or neglect, by the admin (thats me), people who opted for eMail notifications to Introduction Requests were not getting them. It was discovered Friendica had been sending them out as noreply@wnymathguy.com but that wasn't an existing account for eMail on the server. It still isn't, but I believe the SMTP handler for the system—MailGun—will now permit the outbound notifications from this Friendica instance.

If you discover that Introduction Requests made after this announcement did not subsequently send out an eMail notification and your settings are specifically set to have eMail notifications, please complain directly to me.
Michael Rupp
@ something electronically weird happened when I accepted your connection. I had it happen in the past with people on the social.isurf.ca server. Like right now I don't see your old posts on my feed, and I can't comment on your posts if I browse to them.

The remedy might be to both disconnect from each other by deleting from the contacts list and then on another day in the future try reconnecting.

I was going to comment on the hangings post. That's the kind of shit that rolls my eyes back in my head like when you get punched too hard and you are about to go unconsious.
Michael Rupp
Nevermind, I think my directly mentioning you cleared the queue.
Michael Rupp
1619
Damn, this short-run #Podcast, from the questionable NY Times, is ON!!!

It's jam-packed with mindboggling facts of #America's #Racism from pre constitution to today. I hope it goes on to do more episodes.
Michael Rupp
@ Love the name of your instance.
Michael Rupp
I'd be happy to argue about religion or politics come from that NSFW site, and happy to argue about economics or politics from this Social server.

Tap me in when you get rolling.
Michael Rupp
Trevor Speaks Out About the Murder of George Floyd
Trevor Noah, of The Daily Show fame, had dropped the #comedian persona and just talked as #insightfully, #philosophically, and #unscripted to the camera for about 20 minutes. It sounded to me like #RequiredListening. I found it in a few places after first digging it up on #Twitter last night. Please make the time to listen to it and pass it on.

Listen at Tune In radio which is embedded here
https://tunein.com/embed/player/t145029377/

Its also available at Luminary, and available at Radio (dot) Net, and ... of course ... available on #YouTUBE.

#GeorgeFloyd #Minnesota #AhmedArbury #Georgia #AmyCooper #ChristianCooper #NewYork #Racism #InstitutionalRacism #WhiteSupremicists #PeacefulProtest #BlackLivesMatter #MAGA #Trump #America #UnitedStates #PoliceBrutatlity #Justice #JustUs #SocialOrder #Society #Ideals
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Michael Rupp
𝄕𝄞𝄚 𝅘𝅥 . You don't know me! 𝄚𝄀𝄚 I'm the O. P.D.! 𝅘𝅥𝅯 . 𝄚𝄂
Most people take law enforcement for granted, and by that I mean it's assumed to have always been that way and that it's acceptable. It's well documented how the #USA formed it's #Police forces in order to maintain the #sinful institution of #Slavery (see also: Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 & of 1850, Encyclopædia Britannica, TIME Magazine and Eastern Kentucky University for starters), but most of us are blissfully unaware of the darker driving truths.

A tidbit that comes out early in this week's #FAIR #Podcast called #CounterSpin, is that the #Brittish #PD (Bobbies) has a dark past as well.

The culture that forms an entity lingers on long after the people and reasons for forming an institution have died. It takes a lot of energy over generations to clean that garbage legacy culture out of an organization when everybody is willing to remove it. Collectively #Americans are not ready willing or able to remove our sins of #Racism and #Opressing the #Poor from policing because a minority of "us" (the wealthy) want it that way, and they can afford to produce a steady stream of propaganda convincing the majority of people beyond their interests into defending indefensible actions that come out of those institutions.

A stark truth that I personally see is that #Policing internally and #Military #Occupations externally are de facto the same thing for the same reasons put into motion by the same people for the same reasons. We have not yet really left #Feudalism, our #democracy is as big an #illusion as a #video-game.

#### FAIR | Fairness & Accuracy In ReportingCounterSpinAlex Vitale, Chase Madar and Shahid Buttar on Racist Policing Full Show

#GeorgeFloyd #InstitutionalRacism #Racism #Riots #Protests #UnitedStates #PoliceBrutality
#open-mindedness #society #manipulated #power #capital #ignorant #white #middle-class #InstitutionalRacism #Racism #Riots #Protests #UnitedStates #PoliceBrutality
Michael Rupp
I saw @ post the earliest "rumors" (minimally substantiated facts) of this recently. This morning I finally saw "Credible" (well-substantiated) sources getting on the story, like the embedded podcast and the attached web page below.

The linked webpage below has embedded video that was initially live-streamed showing early on that it WAS NOT the protesters causing damage. The #UmbrellaMan does seem like a cop and his only alibi is other police who were all dressed in murky black clothing amidst the chaos.

Twitter, has postings from journalists indicating that the #Minnesota #PD went on a tire slashing bender. See the @AndrewKimmel posting and his substantiation of the claim. Other's on Twitter have documented public tire slashing and from different angles at the same time and place. Still others on Twitter are making connections to the US Govt. Agencies investigating the true nature of the people damaging property.

Still, the best story to read is that linked webpage at the bottom of my microblog post here. They discuss Right-wing extremists and #accelerationists in the latter half. That's some sick stuff festering in our society.

#### Reiss Center on Law and Security at New York University School of LawJustSecurity.orgFar-Right Infiltrators and Agitators in George Floyd ProtestsIndicators of White Supremacists

Michael Rupp to Atheists in the open via wall-to-wall:
Corona Virus to Clergy to COVID-19 hot-spots
Well, this isn't really a stunner ... to people who are more #scientifically schooled.

#Churches become willfully ignorant wholesale vectors of the #COVID-19 #Pandemic.
Authoritatively, #Traditions #Trump #Wisdom and all too early many #people #die.

!
Michael Rupp
A Decade Of Watching Black People Die
I don't know how exactly to deal with my white friends lately. I could have the same headspace of ignorance but for a lucky random event that changed my direction towards #open-mindedness about two decades ago. They aren't exposed to the realities of people without power or money. They don't know they should be exposed to those harsh realities. They don't know because of how #society has formed and they don't know how it has been #manipulated by people with #power and #capital.

A person in my circles asked me what I thought about what's going on in the news lately. He asked because his mind is starting to open, but it bothered me that he didn't ask that question when the Koch instigated and funded armed militia groups were storming State Capital buildings because they wanted hair-cuts and bowling. I didn't resist mentioning that to him. I also had to ask him, "How many people had their necks kneeled on but didn't die?"

I'm not sure I helped guide him closer to knowing. Us #ignorant #white #middle-class people didn't decide to be ignorant, we were cultured into it by design and it self-replicates as religion does by believing lies that make us reject conflicting evidence. "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit." "Yeah, that's a bad neighborhood. Those people don't know how to act civilized." Understanding is shut off. Complex things and environments are reduced to binary "facts". It's an illusion to think any person is different from another person in a meaningful way. Our actions are different because our culture is different, and we all think we are acting the right way, until the day we discover we are wrong and begin to act differently.

Give a sigh and assume the ignorant were victims of a cult when you try to enlighten them with harsh realities.

#InstitutionalRacism #Racism #Riots #Protests #UnitedStates #PoliceBrutality
Asiful Alam
SSC Result 2020
SSC Result 2020

Secondary School Certificate S.S.C Exam Result 2020 is one of most important popular public exam in Bangladesh. Every year there are lots of students attends SSC exam and wait for this exam result, because it is one of the circular and happy news for anyone like students, teacher, parents and other guardian. During This year a total of 13,04,274 students from 28,551 educational institutions have appeared in this year’s SSC and equivalent examination from 3,412 centers across the country. For you good news, SSC Result 2020 you will get here. We make sure to get the Secondary School Certificate S.S.C Exam Result 2020 all updates when it is published Bangladesh education board and Madrasah education board.

Below we added SSC Exam 2020 checking full procedure like Online system, SMS System, Published Date, How to Check SSC Result 2020, how you will get SSC Result 2020, when you will get Secondary School Certificate S.S.C Exam Result 2020 and more for students. Please check below and get your result with short time.

SSC Exam Result Published Date?

According to the Bangladesh Education Board’s rules the SSC Result will be published within 2 months from the last day of the written examination. Generally SSC Result publishes within 60 Days 0f SSC Examination complete date. Every year SSC Exam stars on February’s 1st week and complete on March. Every year SSC examination result publishes on 1st/2nd Week May. SSC Result 2020 Publish date not yet declared officially.. We make sure; Secondary School Certificate S.S.C Exam Result 2020 will be published 25 to 31 May 2020. Bangladesh Education Minister Handover result to Honorable Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina and Finally the Honorable Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina announcing all education board result SSC Result 2020 Full Details and therefore you can go your school and hopefully will get your SSC Result 2020 After at 12 PM.

SSC Exam Result 2020

From the general education system, there are more than 1.7 million candidates are participating in the SSC exam in 2020. Eight General Education Board holds the exam every year. The publishing time of SSC result 2020 bd is at 02:00 PM in the afternoon according to the education ministry. Their result also publishes by the individual education board. As you know that the exam was held by the individual education board, the result is published from each board as well as. Students who sit an exam under the respective board, now they will get their result from that board as well as from the central result hub know as educationboardresults.gov.bd.

Check SSC Result 2020 through Online:

• Open your Safe Bowers.
• Then go to Education Board Website.
• Select your Examination Name SSC/Dakhil
• And then select Examination Year “2020”
• Then Select your Education board.
• Type your “Roll number” For Example
• Type your “Registration Number“ For Exam:
• Fill up The “Captcha Code” (For Verification)
• Click Here Submit Button. After that, you will Get SSC Result.

Check SSC Result through SMS

Take your mobile phone & type following this keyword.

SSC <Space> First three letters of Board name <Space> Roll No. <Space> 2019 and send to 16222

For Example: SSC DHA 451278 2020 and send to 16222

Dakhil Result

Vocational Result

এসএসসি রেজাল্ট

SSC Result Mark Sheet
After publishing the SSC exam result, you can easily see your results with the full Marksheet with numbers and you can be sure of the Golden A+ from here easily. All the Education Board’s official website has been given below. If you want to know your SSC Result Marksheet very quickly with the full mark sheet detailed number, then use the link below.

In addition, DBBL Scholarship & DBBL Scholarship Result & SSC Board Challenge Result & SSC Board Challenge Application By এসএসসি রেজাল্ট ২০২০। & XI Class Admission. Xi Class Admission Result, HSC College Admission, HSC College Admission Result. Polytechnic Admission .
Michael Rupp
I'm an Atheist, but I do practice #Ramadan.
Michael Rupp
Distractions kill productivity.
Michael Rupp

Michael Rupp

## Before ink is dry on record FCC penalty check, Sinclair runs full-hour in-kind ad for mayoral candidate

The station hosted a more than hourlong online “conversation” with Vignarajah alone Thursday night,
but the FEC has been gutted, so WGAF
with anchor Mary Bubala noting at the beginning of the livestreamed program that they had hoped to be joined by Miller, Dixon and Scott. The station did not invite former Baltimore Police spokesman T.J. Smith and Mayor Bernard C. “Jack” Young because they require candidates to release five years of tax returns to qualify for these debates.
##### THE IRONY, IT BURNS
In her letter to the station, Miller’s campaign manager, Ann Beegle, noted that several people affiliated with Sinclair, a conservative-leaning Hunt Valley-based company, have made large financial contributions to Vignarajah’s mayoral campaign.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-fox-debate-baltimore-mayor-20200508-hmoenzleine63fcm7qabakdzxy-story.html

Vignarajah is an entitled twat, to boot.
Michael Rupp
Another type of Religion, Drinking Bleach, and Donald Trump
So we all know that The #Trump told us his idea of how getting UV light inside the body or injecting a sanitizing agent should be looked into to solve the #COVID-19 problem. You may not ask yourself "where the #FUCK does he get his dangerous ideas?", because that will lead to another crazy person to which you would ask the same question, and maybe loop on for thousands of branches.

Here's the short branch on this one. A #RWNJ claimed he was cured of malaria instantly when he took a water purification tablet, so he started an industry of getting people to ingest diluted #bleach. His method has led to the deaths of many children and his own wife, but he persists anyway. Turns out he's politically parallel to Donald J. Trump and has contacted him recently by a letter about how his product would cure the Corona Virus pandemic. That nut may believe it, but no, it doesn't work on anything. Trump gets a letter, then free-balls it at the press conference.
Link to the Guardian Column referred to in the tweet below.
Sawbones Podcast: Bleach Episode, which covers the #Quack selling bleach to drink as a #panacea.

#Clorox #Lysol #Disinfectant #Sterilizer
The PHP issues on the server have been stabilized and things shouldn't go sideways again in the future. Well, maybe momentarily if a test is run or if it's upgrade time, or if OS software upgrades require a server reboot, or the unknown-unknown's...
@ Your posts are all ToS violations, so I'm going to take them down, but you probably knew they didn't work anyway.
#PHP will fuck up your web-server if you don't know what you are doing.

That's my way of saying, "#Sorry for the service outage."
Michael Rupp

### Web Servers are HARD!

When you first install your own #Webserver on your own #Hardware, everything pretty much goes easy and right. Over time you get more complex with things. Then upgrades start to roll in. Eventually, you make a mistake and nobody notices anything. Because you care about the content on the #Server, you spend time on that, not reading logs and outputs of cron jobs. You miss some things that would have been great to know. Then in what seems like a flash, you are in Murphy's Law territory.

It's stunning how much a person doesn't know about things they know so much about.
Michael Rupp to Atheists in the open via wall-to-wall:
infantilisation | a regressive abuse
Something for @

There's a great new post by TheraminTrees that overlaps a lot of problems which # causes in the world in a very subtle manner, almost negligently insidious in nature. I hope people find this liberating or at the least entertaining.

Michael Rupp
Relatively Irrational Ideas vs. Universally Irrational Ideas
I'm trying to play with #Thoughts and don't know if my reach is big enough to attract people willing to chat about my content.
It started before hearing the latest podcast from The Thinking Atheist

but it felt urgent while hearing it.
Click to open/closeHis words and callers had me vasillating between NNNOOOOOO!!!!! & YYYEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!

### We are all #Rational from within our own social circles.

I have to hear #Irrational thoughts uttered from people in my social circles very often. I'm rarely in a position to influence people towards truth (well at least to my truth if nothing else ;) because my #Atheism is something that causes all of them to be skeptical of my and my thoughts on anything. I took my trip to Atheism quietly in my own head and after Farcebook outed me by flipping a switch one day on private groups, everything changed.

Since I used to be just like them, I have some insight into how we used to think and react to #Divergent ideas. I would like to blame it on #Religion, but I think it's more pervasive than that based on personal experiences. It seems like something in human culture from somewhere way back in our collective past it became a #Game #Theory winning strategy to reject the "others" when they deviated from our thoughts and ways. That's a segway to my bigger point; we are more a product of our culture by far than we are of our genetics and that makes us malleable in remarkable ways. It can be the case that a tumor on a brain can cause a person to be criminally anti-social, so please lets only consider the cases where we are in good working order.

Sam Harris the public figure, has a strong case that #FreeWill is an illusion, and I reject that notion, but don't reject his supporting evidence. However, I do often notice how a person's choices were preloaded by their cultural influences. And most people are rational, so most people make a preselected single choice based on the values they adopted from their cultural influences. That can appear to show life is predestined, but it's also showing the lack of exercising free-will. It might help if we would occasionally make sub-optimal decisions in a Puckish way or take choices of action that aren't offered to us, then I think it makes us activists in the protection of free-will. Although this freedom can lead to bad things; that's part of free will, the danger of bad outcomes which cultural experience could have prevented.

### Exit the #Matrix, escape to Sanctuary, leave the cave

I escaped my "cave" of #Christian #Theology and think it's was the best thing that ever happened to me, but between then and now were a lot of very uncomfortable times and bad memories. It was worth it for me.
Click to open/closeI've left a lot of psychological caves since then too and can't believe the things I accepted as reality without ever testing things rigorously.

If you have left a cave, or can bring yourself to accept the idea that your current #Reality might be a wrong one, then you are open-minded enough to break free of the cultural influences that programmed your decisionmaking apparatus.

From such a vantage point you can begin to see how others weren't inherently #Good or #Bad people, but instead were people stuck in a personal reality path where they saw no other choices despite there being infinite possibilities at their disposal at every moment in time. This is where my post title comes back into the foreground. People who are acting in ways you accept are most likely in one of your chosen or inherited cultural circles and those actions may be relatively rational to your circle(s), or they might be universally rational to all circles for all time (or somewhere inbetween). As a quick aside, I didn't know how remarkably bad WWI was till recently, and with my current understanding of how #PTSD works and affects people, it changed how I thought about Hitler since he suffered through, but survived, that wretched war. It seems to my recollection that every time I take a closer look into the life of somebody who's actions are Relatively Irrational to me, I can see how they could be so far askew of good social order and yet still think they are the good person doing the right thing. It doesn't mean I forgive or forget the actions, but like the amazing Chris Rock once said about O.J. Simpson, "I can understand."

### What about people in bad places with bad parents who turn out good?

I believe the motivation for people asking this question is relying on the fallacy of incomplete evidence or at the worst a red-herring type Straw-Man.

The following is a brief trip to my past. As a young child, my parents told many lies which they thought at the time were good to tell in order to protect an innocent child; Santa is real, pulled teeth are worth money to a fairy, drugs are of the devil, etc. At some point in life, I discovered that some people were assholes based on how they treated me and others were not. For reasons I didn't think about at the time people I considered good also did drugs and drank alcohol outside the law. This type of cognitive dissonance caused by personal experience allowed me to distrust all the advice of my parents and their related circles of culture, even the good ones. You might say I got kicked out of the cave I was born into?

At some high level of summary, my parents were ideal in society and were above reproach as good parents. Depending on where one point's the telescope or microscope of hindsight, very different conclusions can be justified about how "good" my home-life was. Even from my own knowledge of history, I would have agreed that their parenting was above reproach and only I was culpable in my decisions to try drugs and drink to excess, that is, until I learned how to leave a cave.

I neither condemn or exonerate their actions, but I don't mindlessly repeat any of them. I'd like to believe I'm a truly good person in the world, especially since I rejected faith in any supernatural entities. I can also see how despite doing things in the past that I find despicable now, at the time I was doing them I was the hero in my own mind's eye, and I was doing the right things for the right reasons. So, if we took a closer look at how the "bad places" and "bad parents" world treated a person who left that all behind to become a "good person", we will probably find that similar to why I thought drugs would be good, that red-herring person who chose good was kicked out of their cave too.
Network Outage
Sorry if the server being offline upset anyone. We had a Verizon FiOS fiber optic cable problem and it was just repaired about a half-hour ago.
Michael Rupp

### Vote For Pete Buttigieg! #NOT

(Former) #MayorPete gets some of his #DirtyLaundry aired out here, and man-o-man it stinks!

#PeteButtigieg #SomeMoreNews #Election2020 #DemocraticParty
Michael Rupp
In the voice of Steven Wright, "Still tired from the move."
Steven Wright clip on YouTUBE

So I moved recently to a new location. This might mean I will start posting again. It was a month or more to prepare to move and it might take another month to unpack.
Server Moving Day
Starts:  Saturday January 18, 2020 @ 7:00 AM
Finishes:  Saturday January 18, 2020 @ 11:59 PM
I will be moving the physical server to a new location so delays in restarting the server should be expected depending on when the "Cable Guy" shows up to activate the Internet at the new location.

Early Friday morning server time the power will go off for the server and with luck, I'll have it running again by 3:00 PM EDT.

I'm pretty sure this won't be an inconvenience for most users on the system.
Location:  Harrogate Square
2 people attend
Michael Rupp
'American Oligarchs' Reveals How Trump, Kushner Families Learned To Work The System
Wow, another confirmation of how the #Trumps got their start of #Wealth by selling dead horses to gold miners as "Steaks", hookers, booze, and crooked gambling. #Theif heritage is being respected by all the next of kin. #Kushner did an about-face from his heritage; #Immigration "I got mine, you aren't allowed though".

Transcript
Michael Rupp
Michael Rupp

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Michael Rupp to Atheists in the open via wall-to-wall:
Can Christianity Save Western Civilization?
(Betteridge's law of headlines applies to the subject posed above)

For some #Atheists the content covered by DarkMatter2525 is old-hat; hashtag . The video at the bottom is his, the video on the top was what made him want to do it.

### Can Christianity Save Western Civilization?

Time travel Jump-links to specific concepts:

Note: if you pass through from here to the YouTUBE site, his expanded video description section has all the documentation backing up what he says in this one.

If you want the long-form version of his response video where he plays the content of the top video above as he responds to it, he did post it; Christian Nationalism is a Bad Idea
! #Christian #Nationalism
Asiful Alam
JSC Exam Result 2019
Education Board Results has declared that the JSC Exam Result 2019 publish date. According to the news, JSC Result 2019 is going to be published on 31st December 2019. So want to get JSC Result with Marksheet?

Education Board Results has declared that the JSC Exam Result 2019 publish date. According to the news, JSC Result 2019 is going to be published on 31st December 2019. So want to get JSC Result with Marksheet?

Link: JSC Result | JDC Result
Asiful Alam
PSC Exam Result 2019
Primary Result has declared that the PSC Exam Result 2019 publish date. According to the news, PSC Result 2019 is going to be published on 31st December 2019. So want to get PSC Result with Marksheet?

Link: PSC Result | Ebtedayee Result | EBT Result
Michael Rupp
My life got too busy for social media! Partly because of social media!
Michael Rupp to Atheists in the open via wall-to-wall:
commanded to love | performing false emotions for tyrants
TheraminTrees has just put together another masterpiece. Aunt Julia is an awesome moment about 12 minutes in.
Click to open/closeCards to Aunt Julia that the child never met are a metaphor of Prayers to God.

This episode deals with #Narcissism and I wrongly assumed he was going to talk about #Trump. He didn't go there. I was pleasantly surprised to find out he was "giving away the game" that #Narcissists play on the rest of us and how to block and/or avoid those #psychological bad-trips.

#Religion #Atheism #Mindgames
!
Michael Rupp
Sorry for crashing my server these last bunch of days. I'm a PHP rookie, and I know enough to be dangerous.
Michael Rupp
Fucking Ring Doorbells
So, the Mozilla Foundation has a thing where they review the ethical quality of a good or service, "*privacy not included", and the #Amazon #Ring #Doorbell made their #ShitList. Apparently people are paying between $100 &$500 USD to have their homes "protected" by the Police through Amazon's #SurveillanceCapitalism AI.

I believe the main thing they don't know they are doing is that they are giving hackers easy access to clandestinely "case my house" to find out when it would be best to come in and rob me. Their doorbells are pointing at my house, not theirs. Their doorbells may never see their own movements, but they will broadcast everybody else's. It makes me wonder if there's a way to walk past and, with a specialized electronic device, cause them to be #Bricked. I think whacking them with a hammer might be illegal, and don't think it would survive a Supreme Court challenge.

That last paragraph sounds far-fetched unless you read the Mozilla write-up (linked below) on this flawed product. Recall, Amazon doesn't make surveillance products to benefit you, they make them to benefit Amazon.

And don't expect the Cops who are keeping all the footage to not post a viral video of you stumbling up the front steps spilling two armloads of groceries onto the porch. They can and will do that. Think I'm wrong? How about the show Cops, or Live PD. Think those shows are real? Try listening to the Running From Cops #Podcast and see how maliciously manufactured they are.

And just royally with this one:
Ring states that it does not use facial recognition technology. However, it has hired a "head of facial recognition research" at Ring Ukraine, so it may have plans to in the future.
David
Fucking Ring Doorbells
I'd rather not.
Michael Rupp
I guess that is the correct answer on more than one reading of the quoted text.

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